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. >> at what point in time can our administration and government fire someone whose gross negligence left four americans dead in benghazi. what does the word responsibility mean to you madam secretary. >> jon: well websters defines responsibility as why don't you go (bleep) yourself. [ applause ] i'm sorry that was from the show "webster." i'm not saying hillary clinton or the state department are blameless here. we need a thoreau inquiry and critical analysis of the misjudgments and pure incompetence that led to the tragedy but this here committee weren't it. >> on august 16 we had this cable that's been widely reported a classified state department cable warning that the benghazi consulate could not withstand a coordinate add tack. were you aware of this august 16 cable? >> 1.43 million cables a year come to the state department they are all addressed to america they don't all come to me they are reported through the bureaucracy. >> jon: let me ask a question: were they timewarner cables because that would explain why they never showed up. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] sorry f
. >> at what point in time can our administration and government fire someone whose gross negligence left four americans dead in benghazi. what does the word responsibility mean to you madam secretary. >> jon: well websters defines responsibility as why don't you go (bleep) yourself. [ applause ] i'm sorry that was from the show "webster." i'm not saying hillary clinton or the state department are blameless here. we need a thoreau inquiry and critical analysis of the...
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more. [ laughter ] sure, exercise will make me look better, feel better, be more attractive, but if a government employee getting paid ten bucks an hour doesn't see how i've shaved inches off my muffin top, why even fly anymore? [ laughter ] i might as well take the bus, where you don't need some fancy scanner to flash people your junk. [ laughter ] now, folks, my guest tonight a man named michael shellenberger. he is an environmental strategist who believes that we need new thinking when it comes to the battle against global warming. i agree. my old thinking was "what global warming?" [ laughter ] now, i began to believe in global warming after al gore's movie made money. [ laughter ] the market had spoken. it's the same reason i believe our children are fighting to the death in capitol city. [ laughter ] and the evidence is growing. look no further than australia, which was just simultaneously battered by typhoons, wildfires, and record heat. and that's in january. imagine what it's like there in the summer. [ laughter ] but ladies and gentlemen -- [ laughter ] -- australia didn't take this ly
more. [ laughter ] sure, exercise will make me look better, feel better, be more attractive, but if a government employee getting paid ten bucks an hour doesn't see how i've shaved inches off my muffin top, why even fly anymore? [ laughter ] i might as well take the bus, where you don't need some fancy scanner to flash people your junk. [ laughter ] now, folks, my guest tonight a man named michael shellenberger. he is an environmental strategist who believes that we need new thinking when it...
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this will be a very difficult negotiation to put together for the government. when you take a look at this, if bebe wanted to go for a purely secular government he would go governor lapid and bennett. lapid will also require domestic policies and an approach on the peace issue that bennett can't tolerate. if on the other hand bebe wanted to go for something that would be lapid on the one hand, you would have the same contradiction but the difference of the religious versus the secular. it will be a very difficult negotiation to put together. in the end, he will succeed but those parties like lapid-- lapid has enormous leverage right now and i dont expect he's going to give it away fair sopg. >> rose: what should be the united states' position right now, what this shea be dag? first question. second question, we're getting a new secretary of state, does that change the dynamic at all because of john kerry and his involvement from the middle east, especially with the syrians and others. >> i would say-- look, i think the-- in kerry's case, he will have an interes
this will be a very difficult negotiation to put together for the government. when you take a look at this, if bebe wanted to go for a purely secular government he would go governor lapid and bennett. lapid will also require domestic policies and an approach on the peace issue that bennett can't tolerate. if on the other hand bebe wanted to go for something that would be lapid on the one hand, you would have the same contradiction but the difference of the religious versus the secular. it will...
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this was not somebody who was trying to steal credit card information break into government databases and reveal secrets of the united states. whatever he was doing, it didn't deserve the find of punishment which the government was insisting he admit and accept. and it is that overreaching that troubles so many of us. because computer law is a law that requires the government to exercise prudent discretion to try to establish between the really bad crackers, and people who might have been motivated by a more idealistic principaled, not a commercial motive which clearly they understood aaron was not. >> jennifer: so the difficulty is how do you carve this right? so in announcing the indictment in 2011 carman ortiz who is the u.s. attorney said . . . now that is an old argument and many would say she makes a point and this is what you're getting at. if i were sneaking into harvard's law library, and stealing hundreds of legal articles, i could be prosecuted and the question is how is this different? >> yeah, that statement, stealing with a computer is the same as stealing with a crowbar
this was not somebody who was trying to steal credit card information break into government databases and reveal secrets of the united states. whatever he was doing, it didn't deserve the find of punishment which the government was insisting he admit and accept. and it is that overreaching that troubles so many of us. because computer law is a law that requires the government to exercise prudent discretion to try to establish between the really bad crackers, and people who might have been...
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when you ask do you want the government to ban certain things, you get quite another answer. and that's because we have a sense of not just of equality in the country but fairness. >> you've been laughing here. what's amusing here? >> what's amusing to me is we're making such a big deal about it. we all live our lives, right? i think on a day-to-day basis, we accept the people around us. we have to go to work, we have to shop, we go to the gym, wherever. the fact that we're making a big deal about the president using the word "gay" is crazy. that is absolutely crazy. >> there's a big deal to be made here which is that only in nine states can i get married. you can get married in all the states. >> i'm not saying there's not stupidly. >> that's a big deal. not just about him using gay in his inaugural remarks, this is about him saying on that issue, that's not fair, that's not equal rights. >> imagine how it would be -- imagine how it would be if actually you could be a black man or woman in america and only have your rights recognized in a number of states. people would find
when you ask do you want the government to ban certain things, you get quite another answer. and that's because we have a sense of not just of equality in the country but fairness. >> you've been laughing here. what's amusing here? >> what's amusing to me is we're making such a big deal about it. we all live our lives, right? i think on a day-to-day basis, we accept the people around us. we have to go to work, we have to shop, we go to the gym, wherever. the fact that we're making a...
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how does the government gauge that? what can be said in order to make that a reality? guaranteeing drones a fence? something of that issue i think will really be something to focus on moving forward. >> all right. luke always a pleasure. serious luke today, huh? joining us now is republican marsha blackburn who prefers to be called congressman. how are you today, congressman? >> i'm well. i'm well. >> so we have a four-page proposal that republicans are behind or some republicans on the hill are behind. are you on board with the proposal? >> i'm one of those republicans that is -- i'm going to be waiting to see what the details are and bear in mind also we have had a working group in the house and they will probably bring their proposals out next week or so and i'm looking forward to hearing what they have to say. there are many of us that have said for years this needs to be fixed. we want to make certain there's no preferential treatment. want to make certain that people are in the queue, have the opportunity to complete their process so let's see what continues to c
how does the government gauge that? what can be said in order to make that a reality? guaranteeing drones a fence? something of that issue i think will really be something to focus on moving forward. >> all right. luke always a pleasure. serious luke today, huh? joining us now is republican marsha blackburn who prefers to be called congressman. how are you today, congressman? >> i'm well. i'm well. >> so we have a four-page proposal that republicans are behind or some...
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if you're a republican president or democratic president, you don't want divided government. you want a house and a senate that's in your hands. karl rove, he talked about a permanent republican majority. he was trying to set up a system where the country at least 50% would vote for a republican president, republican house, republican senate. didn't last long. so that's what you try to do. republicans love talking about ronald reagan. why? the reagan revolution. to this day they talk about him. why? from 1980 all of the way through 2000 it's been all about reagan. this is what you do. i don't understand, speaker boehner. >> what about -- so issues like gay rights which he mentioned there. what about practicality? what does this do to a lot of democrats that live in red states where people don't agree with that. they're running for re-election in 2014. >> do you vote based upon one issue or do you look at a variety of issues? same thing about the issue of choice. there are some people out there who say i am only going to vote based upon whether or not you are pro-choice or pro
if you're a republican president or democratic president, you don't want divided government. you want a house and a senate that's in your hands. karl rove, he talked about a permanent republican majority. he was trying to set up a system where the country at least 50% would vote for a republican president, republican house, republican senate. didn't last long. so that's what you try to do. republicans love talking about ronald reagan. why? the reagan revolution. to this day they talk about him....
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of security is the host government's responsibility. we rely on them. and that militia group in benghazi failed us on september 11th and 12th, so we need to reenforce the ability of these governments to protect our embassies and consulates in 275 different locations around the world. >> well, that raises a point, michael lighter, if we should be in 275 locations. we don't want to retreat from the world, but basically according to the review board that admiral mullen and pickering went through, they looked through the videos and say this host government local militia just turned tail and ran before the attack, or as the attack, was taking place. >> i think what we saw in libya was a slowness on behalf of the state department to adjust to very, very different circumstances in libya. and during the ghadafi area, you could have had people there and the security forces would have protected the installation. clearly, it was a much more dangerous place than we were set up to deal with. these are the places we have to be. if we don't want to ha
of security is the host government's responsibility. we rely on them. and that militia group in benghazi failed us on september 11th and 12th, so we need to reenforce the ability of these governments to protect our embassies and consulates in 275 different locations around the world. >> well, that raises a point, michael lighter, if we should be in 275 locations. we don't want to retreat from the world, but basically according to the review board that admiral mullen and pickering went...
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if he was able to have a democrat follow him four years from now then maybe the idea that government can be hipful to people, go back to what bob carry said that whole idea what we can do with collective action has returned because we've spent a couple decades with 9 idea that government was the enemy. that would be a big shift if that's possible. the only other thing i would say i think he needs to think about the economy even if it's beginning to recover there's still a problem for the manufacturing base not being here, for are kids not being trained correctly, for getting more jobs that are really good jobs for people here. there's a lot of ideas that have been put forth but they need to be focused in a certain way, the idea if you work hard you really can get ahead in this country just like people did in the old days. >> rose: i want to come back to that. michael. >> there are all sorts of reasons for optimism but since we're talking about history, one cautionary note. lbj at the beginning of 1965 i think bob will confirm this, said to his staff you may think i can do anything. b
if he was able to have a democrat follow him four years from now then maybe the idea that government can be hipful to people, go back to what bob carry said that whole idea what we can do with collective action has returned because we've spent a couple decades with 9 idea that government was the enemy. that would be a big shift if that's possible. the only other thing i would say i think he needs to think about the economy even if it's beginning to recover there's still a problem for the...
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we have to have elections that restore a legitimate democratic government in mali and the malian government itself needs to address the real concerns and complaints of its own people. otherwise, the military intervention by the french will, in fact, come to be seen as just another episode in colonialism. so we have to balance security, development, and diplomacy in a way that protects democracy. that's a path to stability in a part of a world that's increasingly deserving of our attention and investment. >> not an easy task, chris coons, thank you so much for joining us. have a great weekend. >> thank you, luke. >>> not one, but two deals struck on the hill this week. our gaggle will be here next. and a programming note for you. this sunday on nbc's "meet the press," congressman paul ryan sits down, exclusively, with david gregory for his first live interview since the election. you don't want to miss that one. >>> but first, the white house soup of the day, shrimp and corn chowder. we'll be right back. and that sounds good, supposed to snow here in d.c., that'll keep you warm. what else do
we have to have elections that restore a legitimate democratic government in mali and the malian government itself needs to address the real concerns and complaints of its own people. otherwise, the military intervention by the french will, in fact, come to be seen as just another episode in colonialism. so we have to balance security, development, and diplomacy in a way that protects democracy. that's a path to stability in a part of a world that's increasingly deserving of our attention and...
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this is the existing problem in the functioning of the government and something that harry reid should have stood up for today. this is a horrible deal and they haven't filled is it out yet. >> jennifer: it is depressing as we lead into the next story karl, about guns, it makes one very discouraged that something will ever get done. the national rifle association afternooned an attack on senator feinstein, and they said, senator feinstein has been trying to ban guns from law-abiding citizens for decades. it's disappointing but not surprising that she's once again focused on curtailing the constitution. curtailing the constitution. karl, what is getting lost in translation here? >> i think the message that dianne feinstein or many others would say to the n ra you can have as many all assault weapons you want access to as long as you join our military. we're talking about not wanting every day citizens to have access to the firearms that are used in the field of war. it's pretty basic. it was the law of the land until it expired under george w. bush. even george w. supported reinstating
this is the existing problem in the functioning of the government and something that harry reid should have stood up for today. this is a horrible deal and they haven't filled is it out yet. >> jennifer: it is depressing as we lead into the next story karl, about guns, it makes one very discouraged that something will ever get done. the national rifle association afternooned an attack on senator feinstein, and they said, senator feinstein has been trying to ban guns from law-abiding...
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protect the public and background checks loopholes at gun shows needs to be stopped but i don't think the government will let it happen. >> michael: it's december pressing when you see the news, all this gunfire and the republicans will not move because they're in the hands of the nra. it's really pathetic. they are a bunch of clowns sometimes. we are a better country because of people like you. thank you. >> thank you. >> reporter: it's been 39 days since the tragedy at sandy hook. at least 1131 has died from gun violence. that's about 43 towns like newtowns. lydia was shot and her mother were shot while they were preparing for a birthday party for lydia's little brother. sheher mother survived but she didn't. she leaves behind three children. another senseless life taken away in america. question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> obama: and each day brings further evidence that the way we harness the sun, the wind and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. >> michael: that was the only shout o
protect the public and background checks loopholes at gun shows needs to be stopped but i don't think the government will let it happen. >> michael: it's december pressing when you see the news, all this gunfire and the republicans will not move because they're in the hands of the nra. it's really pathetic. they are a bunch of clowns sometimes. we are a better country because of people like you. thank you. >> thank you. >> reporter: it's been 39 days since the tragedy at sandy...
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so i wouldn't hold my breath that whatever israeli government that emerges is going to be able to take major decisions on the israel yanl palestinian decisions because it's going to be a broader government. it's on the rule of the orthodox, national service, socioeconomic issues and perhaps on iran. >> a lot of people think that the center in israel, it's really much disputed, has moved further to the right and this government may too. he wants only just, the voters heard him, a bit of a slap in face. he has to do deals. that's the nature of the politics. you have to have a coalition. the more diverse it is, the harder it is to move it forward. what is he going to face pulling it together? >> i think the question is can a sit with b? i mean, lapid has a major priority in trying to push the issue of national service for the orthodox community within israel. that's invariably going to create major tensions with benjamin netanyahu's traditional coalition partners. >> he's having to hold hands with them as well. >> exactly. so i think you could foresee a coalition, as strange as it may see
so i wouldn't hold my breath that whatever israeli government that emerges is going to be able to take major decisions on the israel yanl palestinian decisions because it's going to be a broader government. it's on the rule of the orthodox, national service, socioeconomic issues and perhaps on iran. >> a lot of people think that the center in israel, it's really much disputed, has moved further to the right and this government may too. he wants only just, the voters heard him, a bit of a...
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government. anonymous said they targeted the federal website because it's a section of the department of justice. they feel the department of justice has trumped up charges against high profile activists. we reached out to the fbi earlier today. our washington, d.c. bureau carol krade was able to speak to the executive assistant director of criminal cyberresponse and services branch. this is what they had to tell us. we were aware as soon as it happened. and are handling it as a criminal investigation. we are always concerned when someone illegally accesses another person or government agency's networking. >> but this is concerning because this is not just where they overwhelmed the server with a bunch of requests basically. they went after them. they actually took control of the server. the government takes great precautions and measures to keep this from happening. can you walk us through what they did? >> i don't know and i think that's the question right now they took control of the server. t
government. anonymous said they targeted the federal website because it's a section of the department of justice. they feel the department of justice has trumped up charges against high profile activists. we reached out to the fbi earlier today. our washington, d.c. bureau carol krade was able to speak to the executive assistant director of criminal cyberresponse and services branch. this is what they had to tell us. we were aware as soon as it happened. and are handling it as a criminal...
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is the government pushing back? any new information on the controversial way this all went down. >> reporter: the biggest sort of controversy, if you will, came when that convoy of five vehicles left the gas facility, being driven away by the jihadists, hostages on board vehicles, four vehicles were destroyed, we understand the hostages inside killed as well. a couple of hostages able to escape. the way the prime minister put it we saw the vehicles leaving some of them overturned and burst into flames but it does seem that the security forces there did attack that convoy. but they may have had good reason, because what we have learned from security sources is that convoy was due to take those hostages out of al gearia, they were to be used as bargaining chips, if you will, by the jihadists to stop any further attacks on the gas facility so they could continue to hole out there and perhaps damage it and as well use these as hostages as these al qaeda linked jihadists had in the region, try to make money out of them.
is the government pushing back? any new information on the controversial way this all went down. >> reporter: the biggest sort of controversy, if you will, came when that convoy of five vehicles left the gas facility, being driven away by the jihadists, hostages on board vehicles, four vehicles were destroyed, we understand the hostages inside killed as well. a couple of hostages able to escape. the way the prime minister put it we saw the vehicles leaving some of them overturned and...
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he doesn't hate the federal government. he wants to run the federal government. sometimes in politics, the best way to do that is to run against the federal government. that's the honest truth. >> john avlon, margaret hoover, thank you very much. >> thanks, victor. >>> president obama may be facing a high stakes supreme court battle because a federal appeals court unanimously ruled today that president obama's recess appointments to a federal agency are unconstitutional. the president named three people to the national labor relations board during congress' winter holiday break a year ago. they were former deputy labor secretary sharon block, attorney richard griffin, and attorney terrence flynn. now, today, a three-judge federal panel said those appointments are invalid because the senate was only in recess and technically still in session. let's bring in legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, there are so many questions here. first, let's start with what is the next move? >> well, he will either ask the full appeals court to hear it, or go directly to the supre
he doesn't hate the federal government. he wants to run the federal government. sometimes in politics, the best way to do that is to run against the federal government. that's the honest truth. >> john avlon, margaret hoover, thank you very much. >> thanks, victor. >>> president obama may be facing a high stakes supreme court battle because a federal appeals court unanimously ruled today that president obama's recess appointments to a federal agency are unconstitutional....
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they have seen two devices being tested, but you talk to all the experts inside and outside government. north korea doesn't have the long range missile capability to reach the united states and it does not have the ability to put a nuclear warhead on to a missile. right now it doesn't have it. it's much more of an ongoing threat and somebody that has to be dealt with and definitely a rhetorical threat. >> that are out of the way, north korea feels betrayed by china. it sided with the u.s.-led sanctions. how does our rep with china play into all of this? china is the only major diplomatic ally in the region. >> it's incredibly important because the united states said it needs to be in the negotiations and not bilaterally, but with china and japan and the other countries which are evolved. china is the that is considered to have the most leverage with north corae because it shares a border and gives a lot of aid and a lot of engage ams and leadership of both countries meeting on a fairly regular basis. china doesn't want to see the tests by north korea. china getz angry when there the nu
they have seen two devices being tested, but you talk to all the experts inside and outside government. north korea doesn't have the long range missile capability to reach the united states and it does not have the ability to put a nuclear warhead on to a missile. right now it doesn't have it. it's much more of an ongoing threat and somebody that has to be dealt with and definitely a rhetorical threat. >> that are out of the way, north korea feels betrayed by china. it sided with the...
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change the government. no sign of the president heeding those demands and no sign of these two sides talking. wolf. >> joining us now, the british foreign secretary william hague. thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about the arab spring. egypt, libya, tunisia, all of north africa, throughout the midwes middle east. it looks like potentially it's turning out to be a nightmare. is it? >> i think it's never been the work of a couple of years. clearly, it's the work of a generation, change in the arab world. countries that don't have a particular model to follow, you know, there is no -- it's not like the end of communism in europe where eastern european countries knew they wanted to be like western european countries. these countries have to find their own model of democracy. >> looking back, was it a mistake to dump mubarak? >> the egyptian people dumped mubarak? but a lot of the european countries said it was time for him to go. >> well, in the face of revolution in egypt. none of these countries, c
change the government. no sign of the president heeding those demands and no sign of these two sides talking. wolf. >> joining us now, the british foreign secretary william hague. thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about the arab spring. egypt, libya, tunisia, all of north africa, throughout the midwes middle east. it looks like potentially it's turning out to be a nightmare. is it? >> i think it's never been the work of a couple of years. clearly, it's the work of a...
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no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away. >> i defended the second amendment flying in combat over iraq in kuwait, you know, defending our country. i own a gun. this really isn't about the second amendment. >> reporter: these will be the star witnesses at congresses' first hearing since the shooting in newtown. mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and used to practice at an nra range. now they are taking on the powerful gun lobby. kelly tells cnn they support extensive gun control, including restricting high-capacity weapons, like the one used by giffords' shooter. >> he was taken down after unloading ten rounds in a magazine, then there would certainly be other people that didn't -- that died that day that would be alive today. >> reporter: as the nra's executive director, wayne lapierre is the defender of gun rights. his prepared testimony released by the nra sounds familiar warnings. law-eye biding gun owners will not take responsibility for criminals nor do w
no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away. >> i defended the second amendment flying in combat over iraq in kuwait, you know, defending our country. i own a gun. this really isn't about the second amendment. >> reporter: these will be the star witnesses at congresses' first hearing since the shooting in newtown. mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and...